But its entirely different to claim that the Bible teaches or implies that they did when there just arent any statements in the text that teach or imply that position. When they heard the sound of the Lord God walking about in the garden at the breezy time of the day, the man and his wife hid themselves from the Lord God among the trees of the garden (Gen. 3:8). However, that fact has very little to do with whether He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. Gods presence is also noted by his walking in the camp and sanctuary of Israel. If how we are not that naive to believe that this is a new thing with Him, no we can reasonably infer that God spent time with Adam and Eve. Im pointing out that possible understanding of the text. Ive enjoyed reading your article, the comments and your responses. Romans 5:10-12 The only time it mentions the voice and walking (if those are the right translations) is when Adam and Eve were hiding from God. They walked and talked with God. Possible the sound he heard was uncharacteristically harsh & is why he was afraid. Anyway, Im very surprised I forgot to include a link to an article on theophanies that I wrote for Answers in Genesis. Although Exodus established that God was present everywhere through the judgement on Egypt, it also taught that God would be present in a special way in the tabernacle (later to be replaced by the temple). They forgot about God. I hope this helps. He was given the title of the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" because he knew good and evil. That he still comes to them even after theyve sinned emphasizes that they have made the first move away from him, before he moves them away from Himself by putting them out of Eden. It doesnt say that they were walking with God. 8 Then the man and his wife heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the breeze of the day, and they hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. It is true that the Bible does not say, Adam and Eve never walked with God in the garden. That isnt the point of my post. Well, Jesus wasn't there with Adam and Eve in the beginning. AMOS 3:3 CAN 2 WALK TOGETHER UNLESS THEY BE AGREED? I dont recall what prompted it, but I do remember searching for the phrase, God walked with Adam in the cool of the day. I know you didnt use the word constant but thats sort of the point in my article. So I wouldnt personally address this part of Adam walking with God or not unless the message was ill. Hi Bryan, 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.". 9 But the LORD God called out to the man, "Where are you?" 10 "I heard Your voice in the garden," he replied . Josh 5:13-15 - the commander of the LORD's army (compare Rev 19:9, 10) Dan 3:25 - the "Son of God" in the fiery furnace. Once God addresses him, then Adam could say, I heard the sound of You in the garden (Gen. 2:10, ESV). In conclusion, the whole of chapter 2 & 3 causes me to conclude that Adam regularly communed with God somehow; and to me probably daily (or at least almost) since we know we are the apple of His eye. And to the hill of frankincense. Well, in Genesis 2, Adam names the animals, and the only words quoted from him in Gen. 2 have to do with what he said when he met Eve: This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? God did really walked with man physically, reasons: then Adam was sinless, only sin can hide God from us, so why should God hide himself from a sinless being? God appointed angels to guard the way back (Genesis 3:23-24). Adam and eve Adam and eve disobey god hiding footprints The Presence Of God Guilty Fear Hearing God's Voice Garden Of Eden, The Gardens Concealment . In the later OT the Temple was the place of God's special presence where he made himself known and felt to Israel. Hi Carrie, I see familiarity here. 1. It bothered me for the day into right now where I went on the internet to find something credible and I landed here. However, that story or statement being preached wont cause anyone to fall into sin. If I give full and clear credit to you with a link to your illustration Adam-Eve-Shame as follows: http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?attachment_id=1350. The main point of this entire post is to encourage Christians to look closely at Scripture, so that they will stop saying, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God or something very similar. Yes, I see that there are similarities, and I dont deny the possibility that God was present in the garden in a special way compared to the way that He is omnipresent. Thank you for your post and your diligence to pursuing Biblical accuracy! These include appearances to Abraham, Hagar, Moses, Joshua (Joshua 5:13), Gideon (Judges 5:12), and the wife of Manoah (Judges 13:3). #1. One good example is Leviticus 26:12 AND I WILL WALK AMONG YOU AND BE YOUR GOD. I was putting together a Bible lesson today for my twin girls on the Fall of Man. They consisted of both physical and spiritual components, just like all of their descendants, although originally they were without sin. I hope this clarifies my objective in the post. There is a possibility that we should understand that Hebrew text to be speaking about something more like the whirlwind at the end of Jobthat they heard the sound of God moving about (not walking) in the Garden. I just dont get your argument. So comparing Adam and Eve to children who need to learn to talk, eat, etc. It doesn't say they viewed God with their eyes. I have no problem with that. And therefore, it seems to me familiarity was brought about by regular communion/ communication/ visits from the Lord. Its about urging people to take a closer look at the text so that they do not make false claims about it. In fact it comes to mind that the statement can be transcended as a statement of faith, that the Lord God was loving and personal as he claims himself to be and did walk with them, who knows. 21 AND IF YOU WALK CONTRARY TO ME AND NOT LISTEN TO ME THEN I WILL ring 7 times more plagues upon you 22 I will also send wild beasts among you 23 and if you will not be reformed by me by these things BUT WILL WALK CONTRARY TO ME 24 THEN I WILL WALK CONTRARY TO YOU and punish you 7 times more for your sins This just goes on and on and on all the way through this book about how god expects his people to walk with him please read the book of Leviticus slowly it gives all the details that genesis doesnt. After all, they had not experienced or seen death as of yet. When Eve gave birth to Seth (at age 130) she viewed him as a replacement for Abel. Theres no reason to think that they waited 60+ years to have children when they were already husband and wife and were created by God to fulfill the instructions He had given them, including be fruitful and multiply.. Even the best of our actions is imperfect. The anthropomorphic description of God walking (mithallek) in the garden suggests the enjoyment of fellowship between him and our first parents. Lets take a teacher in a class room full of students, then have the teacher leave the room, chaos will ensue, amen? Adam & Eve had been very naughty and they were hiding from the Lord!! Im always amazed at how strongly some people try to defend certain positions. My main point is that we dont go around saying that the Bible says that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, because that just isnt in there. Is it that they are referred to as sons of God? holy ones? Thats not exactly a clear cut and dry case, beyond dispute, based on those sparse details. Thanks for reading. 00:00. So if your standard were correct, then that same standard would itself have to be outright affirmed in the Bible. However, were here to serve everyone without cost, so please dont feel obligated to give unless the Lord leads. Tim,I will have to agree that scripture does not state outright that God and Adam walked in the garden together on a daily basis, as many assume, however, the earlier verses in Genesis would seem to indicate that Adam and God did enjoy some sort of periodic personal interaction, such as when God brought the animals to Adam to see what he would name them, or when God gave Adam instructions regarding the work that he was to do in the garden, and what he was, and was not, supposed to eat, and certainly when God put Adam to sleep to remove one of his ribs. It doesn't come before, which furthers the notion that God would have been content with them being without clothes, at least provided they didn't eat from the Tree. Adam doesnt need to know instantly that it is God moving about, but once God speaks to Him (whether out of a whirlwind or appearing in human form or any other form) then Adam recognizes who is addressing Him. Part of the commission to rule over creation would have included the need to study it and figure things out. (Posted on October 30, 2014, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349). For example, Enoch walked with God (Genesis 5:22, 24) and Noah walked with God (Genesis 6:9). But, like other things, there is truly not a single word to directly support the notion that Adam walked with God in the cool of the day. But I dont think we need to have them walking with God in the garden to show how bad sin is. The Lord could speak from His throne and these actions could be performed just as easily as if He had manifested in the garden to perform the actions. I think too many people are confused about what it means that something is directly stated, or implied, or that we might infer, etc. My main point throughout has been to direct people back to Scripture to see what it really says. We know that God was with Adam and Eve at all times and wherever they were. To your third point (in the next post), I think the temple imagery is overdone a bit in modern times. They had all they could ever want. 5 Bible Verses about God Walking. 3. So again, lets not be naive to think that God didnt spend time with them! You can see from the above that God decreed several things for Adam to honour and obey. God asks them if they had eaten from the tree, but He already knows the answer. The answer is that it was the Word, who later became Jesus Christ, that walked and talked with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. For more on the issue of Cains wife, see this article: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/. Its encouraging to know that my words have been very helpful for you. If used in this sense, Adam and Eve did walk with God prior to sin because there was no fracture in their relationship with God. Im not sure where you got the idea that Im hellbent on trying to make a point of saying that Adam and Eve did not walk with God. I have no problem with the idea that Adam and Eve may have walked with God, which is what I stated in the conclusion of the post and in several follow-up comments. But what does it really matter, what appears to have happened here (according to some of the responses) is that golden calves have been kicked over and religion has taken a bump on the shins. God then planted a garden 'eastward in Eden' (2:8), containing both the tree of life and 'the tree of knowledge of good . 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Adam and Eve were the first human beings, from whom every other human being descends. For example, the Passover lamb was to be eaten (Exodus 12:8). If so, then it seems to follow that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. They were created with perfect bodies and were husband and wife on the day they were created. However, God could have manifested himself as a human being, but this would not be the glorious spirit being that he actually is. Adam blamed the woman, the . This concept is very helpful and it incorporates all of the othersintelligence, communication, worship, dominion, an eternal soul. Then God shared his thoughts to Abraham of judging Sodom and Gomorrah. If the idea being conveyed by the text is a strong wind then this scene was probably quite similar to the way God spoke to Job, as I mentioned in the article. I believe God appeared to Adam and Eve and Cain and Enoch and Noah and Abraham and Isaac and Jacob (when He wrestled with Him) and the parents of Samson, and even to Balaam and his donkey, the same way He appeared to John. There are many, many Christians who have heard and taught that Adam and Eve physically took walks with God in the garden before they sinned. We must know that Eve and Adam's life in the Garden of Eden was beyond happy. However, most people inevitably mention them walking in the cool of the day, so they arent thinking of it in the figurative sense. Of course, since I work in a ministry that emphasizes Genesis 111, Im going to hear it more than most people. On the sixth day of Creation, God created 'man' in the form of Adam, moulding him from 'the dust of the ground' (Genesis 2:7), breathing the breath of life into Adam's nostrils. They hear a sound. God's presence is also noted by . well, they say that Jesuss life was that of God or perhaps he was God. The Hebrew verb, halak, is translated as "walking" in this passage. Say, for example, that they werent expelled from the Garden until they were 60+ or 70+ (or older). We can speculate, contemplate, and imagine probable scenarios by referencing other relationships in the Bible, but in this day and time especially, we must be diligent and aware of the texts true contents. So if the strong wind idea is actually being conveyed by the Hebrew, then there is no textual basis for claiming that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden in the cool of the day. You claim the following, which I label as CLAIM #1. I do however give a lot of thought when people preach/teach as truth that which is not written but surmised by man/woman to have taken place. I believe one of the biggest weapons used against it is when secular opponents are more aware of the accuracy of the passages like this than we Christians who misuse and misquote them. But thats not at all what is going on here. So, it is not a far stretch to suppose that God and Adam might have walked together in the Garden, if not regularly, else why would God have gone to the trouble to create a garden and put man into it, if not to have a direct relationship. They will live forever, and as well see in the coming chapters, some of them have been given dominion over certain things. My post is not arguing against the idea that Adam and Eve had some sort of relationship with the Lord prior to the Fall. I must stand corrected as I also remembered Adam and Eve walking in the cool of the afternoon with God. Yes, Adam and Eve were made in His image (as are all of us), but I would argue that angels are probably made in His image as well, and even the holy angels arent in ongoing (i.e. The untold truth of the Garden of Eden. The impression given is one of God being there in an embodied form, performing surgery on the man, building Eve and then walking her to Adam. Genesis 3:8 Can you imagine what it must have been like in the garden of Eden, before sin entered the world? Then it says that Adam & Eve hid themselves from God's presence and then they confessed that they "heard" His voice and hid themselves from His voice. God speaks, asking Adam where he is. If youve been impacted by our resources, we invite you to make a year-end gift before December 31. Beyond that, the Bible does not tell us about any communication between our first parents and God until after the fall. In this environment, Adam and Eve had safety, abundant food, meaningful work and fellowship with God. What does it mean for God to walk with them? Yet now the man and the woman are hiding from God in fear. He saw them sew fig leaves together to cover themselves. Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. He was given power and authority by Father God to create the universe and all life within it. Tim. (Vs. 21) Did the wind drive them out of the garden? And a good place to start is The Garden of Eden. Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. Walked with God is a favorite expression in Genesis, depicting the righteous conduct of Israels heroes, including Enoch, Noah, and Abraham. Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. The Bible even indicates that God may have taken on a physical form in order to walk with Adam and Eve in the garden (Genesis 3:8). (Gen 3:5-8). They heard God's approach as a terrible wind that lashed the trees of the garden, and they took cover. They may have done that, and I wouldnt have any problem with it. God, by nature, is Spirit and a spirit does not have a bodily form. Since the Bible doesnt make this claim, its impossible to know for sure where people get the idea from. Much of the talk of the Adam & Eve story revolves around how they ate the . This is something I have heard countless times, and based on the number of responses trying to justify such a view, its pretty clear that a lot of others have heard it and/or taught it. Like a child jumping in his fathers arm as he comes home from work. I dont think its a matter of God wanting or not wanting to spend time with His creation, but more of a matter of how much time passed before they rebelled. 16 I also will do this unto you I will appoint unto you terror consumption burning ague that shall consume the eyes and cause sorrow of heart and you shall sow your seed in vain your enemies shall eat it17 and I will set my face against you 18 and if you still dont listen to Mei will punish you 7 times more for your sins please not that it is sin that seperates man from god. Therefore God was not always with them in the Garden, not as we know it anyway. Haha very eye opening. To the second point in your conclusion, I think it is quite speculative. What an amazing thing to be able to do. To be clearagain. It seems from Scripture that they lived on manna exclusively. Im not really sure how your comment addresses Eds point at all or anything in the article. After creating Adam, God "put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it" (Genesis 2:15). It is not an issue of molester in the same room with a kid. So they hid from the Lord God among the trees in the garden. We cant know because the Bible doesnt speak to this at all. Your entire post is irrelevant to the discussion because you are trying to show what it means when it says that someone walked with God. He claims that seeing Him is seeing the Father.. then I see no problem with Jesus being the physical manifestation of God walking in . Genesis 3:8-9 . God then created Eve, "a helper comparable to him" (verse 18). Genesis 2:8 (NKJV). Here are 6 things that you need to know, insights that will help you in your life today, in helping to refine the way you view God. I think this point has to be acknowledged regardless of whether you think the sound is God walking in the cool of day or God manifesting himself in a strong wind. We read that God planted a garden and placed Adam there to tend it ( Genesis 2:8, 15 ). It means closeness, intimacy, communion. Never stop, word will not go void! Dear Tim Chaffey, my nephew and I have read and discussed these verses endlessly. Ive heard far too many people claim, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the cool of the day. Thats simply false. 11 Not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Again, in Gen 3:24, we see that God drove the man out of the Garden of Eden. If you must doubt something, I think you would have to doubt that. Please do look it up, and if you find it, let me know, so I can apologize and correct this post. thank you so much. One of those commandments was as follows: "And the LORD God gave this command to Adam: 'You may freely eat from every tree in the garden, except you must not eat of the tree of the knowledge of . The Genesis account contains provocative clues as to what Adam and Eve lost by withdrawing from God. The imagery in the temple indicates that it was recreating Eden, indicating that God was present in Eden in a special way that he was not present in other places on the earth. Later Israel recognized that God demanded holiness and obedience if he were to continue to walk among his people. And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (Genesis 3:8).The use of the term walk with reference to God brings up the issue of God communicating to humankind in human language. The texts of Genesis 1-3 outright tell us ONLY what is necessary for our understanding of the events from Creation to the Fall, not of side issues that mean nothing for a proper interpretation of these texts. The activity of God in 2:18-22 give the impression of prior occasions of God walking in the garden. Easy, no relevance to the story. Genesis 2:15-17 doesn't provide many details, 15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png, https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/incarnation/theophanies-in-the-old-testament/, https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747. You cant see that god desires to walk with his people and expects rhem to walk with him? Useful insights. When God said, Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat Adam knew what a tree was, what the garden was, and what eating was. As I stated in the post and many times in the comments, I have no trouble believing that they walked with God; I have a problem with people claiming that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God, because it doesnt say this. One fine, perfect Edenic day Eve was out walking. The Tree of Life was in the Garden was it not? They were to work the land 6 years right? But Im not arguing that this is how He did appear. 9 And JEHO. Thats the point of this post. If used in this sense, Adam and Eve did "walk" with God prior to sin because there was no fracture in their relationship with God. The Garden of Eden, the terrestrial Paradise known also as the Garden of God, is one of the most famous settings in the Bible. I can see that they heard either a sound or a voice. But it would be nice for you or someone else to show me where the Bible ever makes that claim. The Hebrew Bible depicts Adam and Eve as walking around the Garden of Eden naked due to their sinlessness. Behold we shall not sow,nor gather in our increase: now look at 21 Then I will command my blessing upon you in the sixth year and it shall bring forth fruit for 3 years 22 and you shall sow the 8th year and eat of the old fruit until the 9th year until the fruits come in. So what if he didnt say the words in genesis one would think you would be wise enough to figure it out its not hard. I think your criticism of my article misses the mark. 18? This could be literally translated "the wind of that day." Some think this might refer to a strong wind. the Bible states that the man (species) was driven out of the Garden of Eden. It was the sound of God that Adam heard. 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned.

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